Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 11:09:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Richard Seltzer <seltzer@max.tiac.net>
Subject: Internet-on-a-Disk #11, June 1995
INTERNET-ON-A-DISK #11, June 1995
Newsletter of public domain and freely available electronic texts
Circulation: direct = 6,700, indirect (estimated) = 100,000+
This newsletter is free for the asking. To be added to the distribution
list or for back issues, please send requests to samizdat@samizdat.com
(please note new address). This issue and all back issues are also
available at our Web site -- http://www.tiac.net/users/samizdat
Permission is granted to freely distribute this newsletter in electronic
form. All other rights reserved. (Parts of this will soon be collected in
a book -- I-Time: The Internet Era by Richard Seltzer).
We plan to produce new issues about once a month (with time off for
vacation). We welcome submissions of articles and information
relating to availability of electronic texts on the Internet and their use
in education.
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WHAT'S NEW
(texts recently made available by ftp, gopher, www, and LISTSERV)
from the B&R Samizdat Express
http://www.tiac.net/users/samizdat
The Internet Access Company (TIAC) now provides 10 Mbytes of
free Web space with a SLIP account. We are taking advantage of
that additional space to make available:
o all back issues of this newsletter, with hypertext links to the sites
referenced,
o our catalog of etexts on disk (PLEASE COPY THIS DISK) organized
by category,
o pointers to the best sources for electronic texts on the Internet,
o pointers to Web sites devoted to the blind and disabled,
o an extensive hypertext list of useful Internet sites, organized by
category,
o Basement Full of Books (listings of printed books now available
directly from their authors),
o suggestions and comments from readers,
o samples of works by Richard Seltzer,
o a comic-book style story by Michael Seltzer, and
o information about the Masters of the 21st Century Chess School,
run by Bob Seltzer.
We welcome your suggestions regarding how to make this site
more useful and interesting. (By the way, we're using a very
low-tech simple method to create our Web pages -- Microsoft's
Internet Assistant, downloaded for free over the Internet from
http://www.microsoft.com That program modifies Word 6.0
so you can create Web pages as easily as you create Word
documents.)
from the Gutenberg Project --
ftp mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu /pub/etext/etext95
http://jg.cso.uiuc.edu/pg_home.html
QREAD, Etext Reader for Windows, by Dan Scavezze (qread121.zip)
The Second Story of Meno -- A Socratic Dialogue (meno2.txt)
The Berne Universal Copyright Convention -- 1988 (berne10.txt)
The United States Copyright Act of 1976 (uscpy76.txt)
Brief History of the Internet by Michael S. Hart (bhoti10.txt)
Anna Sewell -- Black Beauty (bbeau10.txt)
Kenneth Grahame -- Dream Days (drday10.txt)
Saki (H.H. Munro) -- Beasts and Super-Beasts (beast10.txt)
Frank Norris -- The Octopus (octop10.txt)
Edith Wharton -- The Touchstone (tston10.txt)
John Gower -- Confessio Amantis (c. 1375) (conam1.txt)
The Life and Death of Cormac the Skald (Iceland) (cormc10.txt)
Joyce Kilmer -- Main Street and Other Poems (jkmst10.txt)
Joyce Kilmer -- Trees and Other Poems (trees10.txt)
Rupert Brooke -- Poems (rupbr10.txt)
Amy Lowell -- Dome of Many-Colored Glass (domcg10.txt)
Hiram Corson -- Introduction to Browning (inbro10.txt)
Chaucer -- Troilus and Crisyde (troic10.txt)
from Richard Bear --
http://www-vms.uoregon.edu/~rbear/
The following text is in html (the hyptext markup language used on the
Web).
Laurence Sterne -- A Sentimental Journey
Richard Bear notes that he is "currently attempting to put together the
beginnings of a Spenser home page, beginning with the text edition of
the Shepheardes Calender and an html edition of Book I of the Faerie
Queene."
from Data Text Processing Ltd.
please note new address http://www.datatext.co.uk/
The following text is in html.
Jules Verne -- Around the World in 80 Days
from Project Bartleby at Columbia University
http://www.columbia.edu/~svl2/
The following texts are all in html.
Emily Dickinson -- Poems (1896)
William Strunk, Jr. -- The Elements of Style (1918)
from the United Nations
http://www.undp.org/
April-May Resolutions of the 49th Session of the General Assembly
April-May 1995 Resolutions of the Security Council
from Electronic Text Center at U. of Virginia
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/modeng.browse.html
Numerous literary texts, many apparently obtained from other sites.
Most are restricted to use by U. of Virginia students, but some from
the Oxford Archive are available for all and are automatically converted
from SGML to HTML when you access them.
from Contemporary American Poetry Archive
gopher://gopher.smith.edu:70/11/more/capa or
gopher etext.archive.umich.edu
This new site is intended as an Internet archive of out-of-print
poetry books. The books are stored as individual text-only files.
"Poets or their executors who hold copyright to books may place
them in the archive free of charge; once a volume is archived, it may
be read on-screen, searched electronically, or downloaded freely.
However, the author retains copyright and must be compensated if
multiple copies are made (e.g., for use in the classroom). When the
author receives an offer to reprint the book, we will withdraw it
from the archive and post a publication notice in its place."
For further information and guidelines, contact
Wendy Battin, Director, CAPA, Box 603, Hadley, MA 01035
(413) 585-9149, wbattin@smith.smith.edu
>From Reality Software
http://www.maine.com:80/reality/Welcome.html.
This small publisher of electronic books now has a home on the Web.
They provide electronic books for DOS and Windows in ancient history
and the history of religion, historic transportation image collections,
and art image collections.
>From Sam Sternberg
ftp://ftp.phoenix.ca/pub/ibook
The Business Guide [for the Internet] -- this complete book has been
placed in the public domain by its author.
>From Gary Kline
http://www.eskimo.com/~kline/novel
Journey Toward the Dawn -- a shareware novel made available in
electronic form by its author. (No charge for the plain vanilla ASCII
version.)
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SUGGESTION -- PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD
While very few K-12 schools have good Internet connections, nearly all
have PCs or Macintoshes. And one of the best ways to introduce them
to the treasures of the Internet is by providing them with electronic texts
on disks. (That's a lot easier and cheaper than giving them printouts.)
For those who do not have the capability or the time to retrieve
electronic texts from the Internet, many are available at a nominal price
from PLEASE COPY THIS DISK, a project of The B&R Samizdat
Express. For further information, send email to
samizdat@samizdat.com or check our Web site
http://www.tiac.net/users/samizdat
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WEB NOTES
>From the U.S. Post Office -- ZIP Codes
http://www.usps.gov/ZIP4Form.html
A quick and easy way to get ZIP codes for any US address.
>From the National Institutes of Health
http://www.alw.nih.gov/
The Home Page of the Advanced Laboratory Workstation System at NIH
is a good starting point on the Web for anyone interested in biology and
medicine.
>From the Internet Chess Club
http://www.hydra.com/icc/
This is the Web site for on-line real-time chess play. It looks like they are
improving and commercializing use of the old Internet Chess Server --
which works very well.
The following Web sites are devoted to the blind and disabled:
EASI: Equal Access to Software and Information
http://www.rit.edu:80/~easi/
WebABLE!
http://www.webable.com
Disability Related Resources on the Internet (from West
Virginia Rehabilitation Research & Training Center)
http://www.icdi.wvu.edu/Others.htm
Canadian National Institute for the Blind
http://www.wimsey.com/~jlyon/index.html
Disabilities (sponsored by Evan Kemp Associates, Inc.)
http://disability.com
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OTHER EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES
>From NASA -- LIVE FROM THE STATOSPHERE
In October 1995, NASA will provide live video direct from its Kuiper
Airborne Observatory (KAO) as it flies at 41,000 feet to study planets,
stars and galaxies with its infrared telescope. This project, next in the
series of electronic field trips that began with LIVE FROM ANTARCTICA,
will include live television (over PBS and NASA-TV), and followup video-
tape, as well as print materials suggesting hands-on, in-class activities, and
materials available over the Internet
Targeted primarily at the middle school grades, LFS will also provide
interdisciplinary materials that can be easily adapted for elementary and
high school use.
LIVE FROM THE STRATOSPHERE will allow students to
take a virtual trip aboard the Kuiper, to interact with astronomers and
the flight-crew in real-time, to better appreciate the nature of
contemporary astronomy and its incredible discoveries over the past
decades, and the promise of the decades ahead.
NASA'S K-12 Internet Initiative will provide online materials accessible
via a World Wide Web page; alternate Internet access will be be provided via
Gopher and basic Email. As was the case with LIVE FROM ANTARCTIA,
these materials will also be available on diskette from PLEASE COPY THIS
DISK (samizdat@samizdat.com) Another similar program , LIVE FROM THE
HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE will be offered in the spring of 1996.
To receive introductory materials and other background information, send
an e-mail message to: info-lfs@quest.arc.nasa.gov
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CURIOUS TECHNOLOGY
RealAudio
http://www.realaudio.com
This is one we've seen demoed and read about but haven't had
a chance to try out directly. A set of software products makes
it possible to create your own radio station on the Internet. When
you click on an audio file, you begin to hear it immediately, in
real-time, rather than waiting for the entire file to download before
you hear anything. You can get the viewer software from their
Web site. They charge for the server software that lets you create
the files and make them available this way. I understand that some
bands are using this as a way to by-pass record companies and
broadcast radio stations and take their music direct to the public.
If I had the time and money, I'd be tempted to use this capability
to post a radioplay of mine (The Lizard of Oz).
ZIP drive
http://www.iomega.com, info@iomega.com
This is a disk drive add-on for your PC or Macintosh, which accepts
100 Mbyte diskettes. I have the PC/parallel port version which
plugs right into the printer port, and can be readily moved from
machine to machine. This makes it easy to store and move large files
and programs
(bigger than the 1.4 Mbyte capacity of a high-density 3-1/2" diskettes)
The drive sells for about $200 and a set of three diskettes
sells for about $50. The product has only been available since March
of this year.
It's being marketed as an alternative to a hard disk upgrade, as a
way to back up your hard disk, and as a way to store large files
(such as the video, audio, and images you can retrieve from the
Internet, which are too big to fit on ordinary diskettes and which can
eat up an inordinate amount of hard disk space).
I see it more as the equivalent of a writeable CD ROM, which would
be particularly useful if you only need to make a few copies (rather
than hundreds) or want to make copies on demand, or where the
user would periodically download updates from the Internet. This
capability could also be the basis for interactive multi-media games
on the Internet which require large writeable local storage.
I'm interested in providing the electronic texts in our PLEASE COPY
THIS DISK collection in this new format (the equivalent of about
100 ordinary diskettes on a single ZIP disk). Please let us know
if you would be interested in the service. (seltzer@samizdat.com)
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HEY, THAT'S YOUR PICTURE! --
WEB PAGES AS TOOLS FOR RECOGNITION AND MOTIVATION
by Richard Seltzer, B&R Samizdat Express
The Web offers many temptations. It's easy to invest lots of time and
money and disk space with fancy graphics and multi-media special effects.
As a rule of thumb, don't put a picture on the Web unless it's worth
10,000 words (not just 1000). It should convey that much information
and meaning to the user because that's about what it will take up in disk
space and time to download. There is nothing more annoying than
decorative "artwork" -- waiting for graphics that convey no meaning,
especially waiting the second and third time you return to a site, and
especially on the first page to which you have to return to navigate
elsewhere at the site.
But there is one major exception to that rule -- the use of photos and
other artwork and even sound and video for purposes of recognition,
self-esteem, and motivation.
What's the point of all the thousands of personal home pages that are
proliferating so fast on the Web? Who will ever see them? Who cares?
The answer dawned in me a few days ago when my five-year-old son
Timmy brought home a particularly good picture he had made at Tot Spot.
My wife was ecstatic -- so proud of him that she immediately hung it on
the kitchen wall, and he was delighted to receive such recognition.
What was happening? She expressed pride and joy in what he had done
and affirmed his worth and importance and the value of what he had done
by the act of posting it where it can be seen by and shared with others.
That same model can work on the Internet.
Shortly after that, my 14-year-old son Michael wrote a particularly good
science fiction story for a school assignment. He's a bit jaded now when it
comes to posting things on the kitchen wall, so I posted it on the Web
instead (http://www.tiac.net/users/samizdat/comic1.html)
Yes, the Internet can be used for publishing -- simply putting text in
electronic form and making it easy for people to retrieve it. But remember
that regardless of whether anyone pays for the information, publishing is
a two-way proposition. The reader obtains the information, and the
creator gets the satisfaction and recognition of having his or her creation
posted where others can see it and read it.
Consider the example of Hillside Elementary in Minnesota --
http://hillside.coled.umn.edu/ A year ago that was the first
elementary school on the Web. One of their first projects was setting a
sixth grade class loose to use the Internet for research and then publishing
their papers on the Web. At the time, I was particularly impressed that
instead of footnotes the students included hypertext links to their on-line
sources. That looked like an excellent example of how research papers
could and should be written in the future. Now, however, I realize the
importance of the fact that the papers were made available over the Web
and that all the students had their own individual home pages, complete
with pictures of themselves or pictures that they had drawn and whatever
they wanted to say about themselves. They were given recognition on a
global scale. Anyone anywhere in the world with access to the Web could
see them and their creations. The success of their site would not be
measured in "hits" per day, but rather the motivating power of knowing
that what you do can be seen by people you've never met, by people on
the other side of the world. In this context, sheer numbers mean nothing,
and the potential to be seen and read is everything.
We should keep in mind that people -- students as well as customers and
business partners -- are motivated at least as much by the need for recognition
and self-esteem as by economics. There are good reasons for hanging photos
and plaques to commemorate winning teams and academic achievers, just as
businesses post the names and/or photos of the employee of the week or
month and for rewarding people with important-sounding titles and printing
them on business cards. And there are valid reasons for having company
and individual home pages that are not directly related to costs and revenue --
that provide recognition and motivation, and can help build relationships and
loyalty.
Photos of individuals, which in a direct marketing/business sense are relatively
useless (what information do they convey to the reader?), can be very
important to the self-esteem of the person shown -- regardless of how many
people may choose to look at them. Consider the Special Olympics site --
http://www.worldgames95.org/ -- which under "Yale Special Olympics
Contacts" provides pictures and profiles of a variety of volunteers,
including the janitor who serves as "chair of Yale's Sanitation and Recycling
Committee for the 1995 Special Olympics World Summer Games". Those
pictures are buried deep in the hierarchy of directories. They are not intended
to attract readers to the site, but rather to publicly express appreciation.
Consider the possibility of a school using Web space to recognize:
o the individuality and creativity of all students (a la Hillside),
o special efforts and accomplishments of students, teachers, and
other school employees,
o volunteers and donors,
o extracurricular clubs and their members,
o the Parent-Teacher Association and its leaders,
o alumni and alumnae (making them feel part of the broader school
community), and
o the school board as a whole and its members individually.
Probably not that many people on the Internet would look at all these pages,
but the very fact of their existence -- the fact the the people being recognized
could at any time connect to those pages and show them to others -- is very
important as a motivator, a key element is building and maintaining a sense of
community.
When everybody does it, does it have less value? Like the photos of teams
and plaques of achievers hanging in the corridors of schools, even if only the
students and a handful of visitors will see them, still they are a source of pride
and motivation, and the number of other schools with similar photos in no way
diminishes their value. And the community of people who feel they belong to
that Web site will look and return and show what they find to others,
regardless of how many other new communities are created.
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BOOK NOTE
Being Digital by Nicholas Negroponte (from MIT's Media Lab)
Alfred A. Knopf, $23.00
This NY Times best-seller is a quick read, but provides very good insight
into where the Internet and "interactive" TV are headed. I heard him
speak about five years ago, and much of what he said was coming has
in fact happened.
My favorite soundbytes from the book:
-- "Computing is not about computers any more. It's about living."
-- "The true value of a network is less about information and more about
community. The information superhighway is more than a short cut to every
book in the Library of Congress. It is creating a totally new, global
social fabric."
-- "In the near future, individuals will be able to run electronic video
services in the same way that 57,000 Americans run computer bulletin boards
today. That's a television landscape of the future that is starting to look like
the Internet, populated by small information producers."
-- "The fact that TV Guide has been known to make larger profits than all
four networks combined suggests that the value of information about
information can be greater than the value of the information itself."
-- "The Internet is interesting not only as a massive and pervasive global
network but also as an example of something that has evolved with no
apparent designer in charge, keeping its shape very much like the
formation of a flock of ducks. Nobody is the boss, and all the pieces are
so far scaling admirably."
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MOVIE NOTE --
JOHNNY MNEMONIC: FORGET IT
William Gibson wrote this move, and they held a neat Internet hunt
to promote it (check http://www.mnemonic.sony.com/nethunt for the
aftermath), but the story is badly flawed.
It's the year 2021. 300 gigabytes of data (cure to a disease) are on a
CD ROM. Rebels are willing to pay a fortune to upload this data onto
a chip implanted in someone's brain, so he can carry it to the other side
of the world for downloading. What's the big deal about 300 gigabytes
25 years from now? It should be terabytes or orders of magnitude
above that to be credible and interesting. The data is already on an easy-
to-carry and easy-to-hide little CD ROM; so why bother to transfer it to
a chip in someone's brain? Also, the world in 2021 is supposed to be
an Internet-centric society. Why use sneaker net when you could
transmit that data anywhere, anytime, instantaneously?
And the guys doing the sending use FAX (not Internet) to transmit
the code needed to download the data at the endpoint. This is a
bizarre use of FAX and bizarre non-use of the Internet. Above all,
what the need for security if you want to broadcast the
data to everyone?
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WELCOME TO CYBERSPACE
In Time Magazine's Special Issue, Welcome to Cyberspace, the
map of world Internet connectivity on p. 81 indicates Thailand, Bolivia,
Cuba, Pakistan, Mozambique, and Ethiopia have no Internet connections.
But we have subscribers in all of those countries (more than half
a dozen in Thailand). In addition, we have subscribers on the
islands of Reunion and Vanuatu, which don't appear on the map.
Use of the Internet is growing at an incredible rate. It's hard to say
with any certainty that any part of the world is not now connected
by some roundabout route. Our subscribers in Ethiopia and Pakistan
work for the UN, and hence their email addresses do not include the
country codes for those countries.
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
***YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:47:02 -0500
From: leisen@ftn.ca (Lewis S. Eisen)
I support the free distribution of information, the increase of literacy,
and all the apple pie -type goals you stand for.
I do believe, however, that one gets what one pays for, and that quality
costs. If a publisher wants to attract the best typesetters, and the best
graphic illustrators, and the best bookbinders to produce editions of good
quality, then it should pay those people properly for their skills. That
pay costs dinero. If I want to buy that book, I must pay my share to have
it.
If books are recopied without payment of royalty and distributed freely,
there will be no money in the publishing business. If there is no money to
be made in publishing, people will leave the business. Authors won't be
able to find publishers, and will not write books, since there is no money
to be made. The same is true in the drug market: if a generic drug is
allowed to be sold more cheaply by someone else to the disadvantage of the
company that discovered it, that company will stop researching and creating
new drugs. Then we all lose out.
You can't get something for nothing.
Lewis S. Eisen Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
lewis@ftn.ca
Prefex Services Inc.
Computer Training & Consulting for the Legal Profession
*** REPLY TO THE ABOVE
I completely agree with you. If a publisher adds value to a work by the
way it is packaged/edited/illustrated, then people will be willing to pay
for that value added. But the basic information -- unadorned -- should
be free and freely available in electronic form. Publishers can make
money because most people do prefer still to get their information on
paper and well typeset, etc. They can also offer value-added services in
the electronic realm -- with high-powered search and abstracting
capabilities, etc.
> If books are recopied without payment of royalty and distributed freely,
> there will be no money in the publishing business.
Royalties should be paid to authors for work in paper form, as in the
past. But electronic information should be free and for the benefit of all.
Those who can afford and prefer paper, and other value-added extras can
pay for them. Making info free in electronic form benefits:
1) the blind who are the main consumers of electronic texts today
2) underdeveloped countries and universities with very limited library
budgets, where concerted efforts to build electronic libraries can
benefit many, who would not be able to pay for a traditional edition.
3) the publishers of the paper editions -- because for most people seeing
portions in electronic form whets their appetite to buy the book (the
ordinary person would not read an entire book in electronic form -- it's
simply too awkward today; and printing it out on your printer is no
bargain: buying the book is far cheaper
4) teachers and students in public schools, where the cost of textbooks
and the rigidity of existing anthologies limits what can be taught and how.
>If there is no money to
> be made in publishing, people will leave the business. Authors won't be
> able to find publishers, and will not write books, since there is no money
> to be made.
Keep in mind that very few authors make significant money from
royalties. Most would value having a large audience far more than they
would the few dollars they might make from publication. But in any case,
as noted above, making a book freely available in electronic form is
likely to increase rather than decrease traditional book sales.
Anyway, that's how it looks from here. Thanks for taking the time to
send such a thoughtful response.
My intent is to air concerns like yours, and try to clarify my message.
When it comes to electronic texts and copyright, there are no
simple answers. But I feel that opportunities are opening and we need to
find reasonable ways to take advantage of them for the benefit of all.
The notion that electronic information should be free is an extension of
the concept of the free public library. It would be a way of raising the
lowest common denominator in terms of access to information and access to
the tools needed for self-education. Free libraries don't threaten the
publishing industry; nor would free electronic texts. (Or at least that
is my opinion. But the truth probably lies somewhere in that vicinity.)
Best wishes.
Richard Seltzer
*** WWW HOME PAGES
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 08:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ed Langthorn <edlang@ccnet.com>
In one of your newsletters you described how you set up Your WWW home
page with a web server on your home system. I recently stumbled across a
method by which anyone can set up a page with their Internet access
provider at no cost whatever (unless a large amount of storage is used).
It can be done with a basic shell account.
First you make a sub directory in your home directory named "public_html"
Within it create a file named "welcome.html" which contains your home
page material.
This can be accessed with URL "http://www.<your access provider>/~<yourname>
It worked on a test, but I haven't yet completed my home page. You might
want to share this with your readers.
Regards,
Ed Langthorn
*** YOUR HOME PAGE NOW LISTED ON MARK TWAIN RESOURCES
ONTHE WWW PAGE
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 08:34:54 -0700
From: Jim Zwick <fjzwick@mailbox.syr.edu>
Just a quick note to welcome you to the World Wide Web and to let you
know that I've added a link to your page from my Mark Twain Resources
on the World Wide Web page. I have a separate page connected to that
one that lists all of the Twain e-texts available on-line, but thought
it would be more appropriate to list your site under the section of
the main page on "Syllabi and Other Resources for Teachers" since I
understand that your service is primarily geared towards getting
e-texts into the classroom. That section is one all teachers probably
look at. The page is at this URL:
http://web.syr.edu/~fjzwick/twainwww.html
If there are any problems with how your service is described, please let
me know. I also maintain the Mark Twain on the Philippines site that is
listed there under Exhibits.
I am always on the lookout for additional educational resources to list
on my page. If you add any additional Twain-related resources to your
site down the road (e.g. a sample syllabus or class outline that uses
e-texts from your Please Copy This Disk service), please let me know.
Best Wishes,
Jim Zwick
fjzwick@mailbox.syr.edu
http://web.syr.edu/~fjzwick/
***CROATIA
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:34:57 GMT
From: Boris.Vidovic@oleh.srce.hr (Boris Vidovic)
hr means Hrvatska, that is to say, Croatia. I am Headmaster of
the Pujanke Primary School, Split, Croatia, Europe. By the way, I live
in the City of Split, which celebrates 1700 anniversary of its existence.
I am currently serving on the Organizing Committee of the HUPE (Croatian
Association of Teachers of English) Conferenc. I have made the first
Internet announcement of the Conference (with the help of Abamarija and
Mrki). It is still under development.There are few thing about my native
town Split. I would like you to have a look at http:bjesmoar.srce.hr:1920
and let me know how it looks in the States.
Regards and best wishes,
Boris Vidovic
***THAILAND
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 01:26:46 +0700 (GMT+0700)
From: Trin Tantsetthi <trin@nucleus.nectec.or.th>
Subject: Re: Internet-on-a-Disk #10
do you have a complete collection of Internet-on-a-Disk available for
FTP? if that's the case, would you kindly allow me to mirror them and
make it available on ftp.nectec.or.th for Thailand domestic users to
fetch freely? i find that your compilation is very useful. but if each of
the Thai user would fetch a copy of your newsletter, our international
link would be drowning. thank you for your kind consideration. -trin
***NB -- Internet-on-a-Disk is now available in Thailand at
ftp://ftp.nectec.or.th/pub/info/inet-on-disk
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They are also found at such sites as:
gopher sjuvm.stjohns.edu /Disabilities & Rehabilitation Resources/
/EASI/EASI's list of available Internet etexts
And also at the GRIST On-Line BBS at (212)787-6562.
And also at the Paradigm BBS in San Diego, CA (619) 292-5193
You are welcome to include this publication on your bbs or ftp or
gopher or webserver. Please let us know the address, and we'll add it to
this list.
NB -- Depending on time and place, Richard Seltzer could be available
for speaking engagements.
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